Comments on: Local Motion to convene “Citizens’ Committee on the Champlain Parkway” http://www.localmotion.org/blog/2010/03/local-motion-to-convene-citizens-committee-on-the-champlain-parkway/ Building a culture of walking and biking in northwest Vermont Thu, 02 Feb 2012 17:41:38 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: bob herendeen http://www.localmotion.org/blog/2010/03/local-motion-to-convene-citizens-committee-on-the-champlain-parkway/comment-page-1/#comment-3137 bob herendeen Tue, 16 Mar 2010 17:08:47 +0000 http://www.localmotion.org/blog/?p=679#comment-3137 # How can the project be made to enhance the local business climate and increase commercial property values along Pine Street and surrounding commercial areas? # How can the project be made to improve safety and create a more attractive environment throughout the immediate project corridor for people on foot, on bike, and in wheelchairs? Unless the road is placed underground I am afraid these two goals are mutually contradictory in the short term. If it isn't built, in the long term the two goals are mutually supporting in a world with less car vehicle traffic and more public transport. If we build it, the long term goal is pushed farther into the future, and made more difficult to achieve. Is it a done deal? # How can the project be made to enhance the local business climate and increase commercial property values along Pine Street and surrounding commercial areas?
# How can the project be made to improve safety and create a more attractive environment throughout the immediate project corridor for people on foot, on bike, and in wheelchairs?

Unless the road is placed underground I am afraid these two goals are mutually contradictory in the short term. If it isn't built, in the long term the two goals are mutually supporting in a world with less car vehicle traffic and more public transport. If we build it, the long term goal is pushed farther into the future, and made more difficult to achieve.
Is it a done deal?

]]> By: Wayne Senville http://www.localmotion.org/blog/2010/03/local-motion-to-convene-citizens-committee-on-the-champlain-parkway/comment-page-1/#comment-3128 Wayne Senville Tue, 16 Mar 2010 01:04:50 +0000 http://www.localmotion.org/blog/?p=679#comment-3128 Just to let folks know that the Burlington Planning Commission will be considering the language in the draft Burlington Transportation Plan now under review -- that includes reference to the Southern Connector. Discussion of the draft Plan will be on our Agenda for Tuesday evening, March 23rd. For details about time & location of the Planning Commission meeting either check the City of Burlington web site where commission meeting agendas are posted, or call the Planning Department office. Just to let folks know that the Burlington Planning Commission will be considering the language in the draft Burlington Transportation Plan now under review — that includes reference to the Southern Connector. Discussion of the draft Plan will be on our Agenda for Tuesday evening, March 23rd. For details about time & location of the Planning Commission meeting either check the City of Burlington web site where commission meeting agendas are posted, or call the Planning Department office.

]]> By: carolyn http://www.localmotion.org/blog/2010/03/local-motion-to-convene-citizens-committee-on-the-champlain-parkway/comment-page-1/#comment-3127 carolyn Tue, 16 Mar 2010 00:50:50 +0000 http://www.localmotion.org/blog/?p=679#comment-3127 These are very important things to be concerned about: 1. We need to be sure a. there is a fast small transport bus that goes up and down pine st. like what they have in Boulder CO.  from and to park and ride b. there is a park and ride at exit off rte 189...please research out that kmart shopping center and find out who owns it. c. that sidewalks run up and down pine st  the entire length, with places to sit and rest. trees line pine st. 2. if the parkway is not built that the land is used for fast transit, and for foot and bike traffic, dog park, and a small community center with restrooms, vending machine?  small place to eat? place to meet for ward 5 and others?   3. Regardless we need to be sure there are signs for trucks to go from rte 7 north onto rte 189 to rte 89 ASAP. 4. add a stop light at Howard and Pine 5. Be sure that neighborhoods are not decimated, with people sidetracking traffic build up. 6. Be sure that local vermonters get to build this thing, NOT OUT of staters. (like they did for BT they came from Maine!) 7. Personally Having a big road is folly.  The only benefit is that there will be more money for more jobs for the construction.  We need mass transit, not more cars into Burlington. And let us get get more trains to carry freight, instead of so many trucks. Carolyn These are very important things to be concerned about:

1. We need to be sure
a. there is a fast small transport bus that goes up and down pine st. like what they have in Boulder CO.  from and to park and ride
b. there is a park and ride at exit off rte 189…please research out that kmart shopping center and find out who owns it.
c. that sidewalks run up and down pine st  the entire length, with places to sit and rest.
trees line pine st.

2. if the parkway is not built that the land is used for fast transit, and for foot and bike traffic, dog park, and a small community center with restrooms, vending machine?  small place to eat? place to meet for ward 5 and others?  

3. Regardless we need to be sure there are signs for trucks to go from rte 7 north onto rte 189 to rte 89 ASAP.

4. add a stop light at Howard and Pine

5. Be sure that neighborhoods are not decimated, with people sidetracking traffic build up.

6. Be sure that local vermonters get to build this thing, NOT OUT of staters.
(like they did for BT they came from Maine!)

7. Personally
Having a big road is folly.  The only benefit is that there will be more money for more jobs for the construction.  We need mass transit, not more cars into Burlington. And let us get
get more trains to carry freight, instead of so many trucks.

Carolyn

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